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It starts today as i now have my gaskets, ARPs and valve stem seals!
Cometic 1.4mm metal head gasket, Cometic exhaust manifold gasket and Cometic valve stem seals to be exact...
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb254/broad55/Supra%20head%20gasket/28032009621.jpg
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb254/broad55/Supra%20head%20gasket/28032009618.jpg
Im so excited, the mrs says i should get out more!, lol
yardarm1
28-03-09, 03:19 PM
Good luck Mark....
91supra313
28-03-09, 03:20 PM
This has the makings of a HG rebuild guide.....Now that you are doing this I can wait and let you mess yours up before me...lol.
Suprapower
28-03-09, 04:04 PM
Have you finished it yet Speedy? :)
terry steward
28-03-09, 04:18 PM
Excellent,hurry up and do it though,coz i think i may need you pretty shortly !!!,as my planned rebuild for today has gone awry,AGAIN,and ive had no news for 5 hours as to why its gone awry !!!
john89t
28-03-09, 04:40 PM
Hmm, MHG and ARP's...i assume your not going to machine the block or head? :)
it should still be ok mate because as you know the engine in my white supra was built the same way, but it was Dr Evil who fitted the mhg, and he spent literally hours cleaning the head and block, and the ARP's have 100ft/lbs on them, (that was 2 years ago)..and it's been well and truly tested in that time..
i guess you can say Mick done a good job with the block and head faces and had some luck getting away with not machining, let's hope you have the same luck mate :yes:...some haven't :crybaby:
Stevieboy
28-03-09, 04:45 PM
I suppose you would like me to bring the shim kit to the Essex meet Mark ;)
I suppose you would like me to bring the shim kit to the Essex meet Mark ;)
Yes please BUT i have a cunning plan not to have to re-shim BUT to decrease the clearances that are curently near or at Toyotas maximum specification, time will tell if it actually works, lol
Hmm, MHG and ARP's...i assume your not going to machine the block or head? :)
it should still be ok mate because as you know the engine in my white supra was built the same way, but it was Dr Evil who fitted the mhg, and he spent literally hours cleaning the head and block, and the ARP's have 100ft/lbs on them, (that was 2 years ago)..and it's been well and truly tested in that time..
i guess you can say Mick done a good job with the block and head faces and had some luck getting away with not machining, let's hope you have the same luck mate :yes:...some haven't :crybaby:
I have no need to rush this as i prefure to do it once, do it right! and so if i spend a couple of days on EACH of the block/head surfaces thats ok!
Like you said it can be done by hand.
GT did his by hand and its been to JAE and back and no problems reported so far :)
yes i know it went there on a trailer, lol
Yes please BUT i have a cunning plan not to have to re-shim BUT to decrease the clearances that are curently near or at Toyotas maximum specification, time will tell if it actually works, lol
I have no need to rush this as i prefure to do it once, do it right! and so if i spend a couple of days on EACH of the block/head surfaces thats ok!
Like you said it can be done by hand.
GT did his by hand and its been to JAE and back and no problems reported so far :)
yes i know it went there on a trailer, lol
Mine has been on now for 2/3 years having done 2 french runs and NOT had the block or head worked other than by me and some 1200's on a MHG and ARP's :) :D :D :)
Mine has been on now for 2/3 years having done 2 french runs and NOT had the block or head worked other than by me and some 1200's on a MHG and ARP's :) :D :D :)
Does this only work provided you have a flat block and head first ?
Does this only work provided you have a flat block and head first ?
yes. and no pitting on either worth talking about,
Its bloody hard and dirty work, took me ages, I really was getting demotivated with by the half way mark, but persistence paid off.
Did all the prep work on mine and still running 1.5 Bar with no problem, 2mm MHG and ARP studs, torqued to 100lbs (looks round for a large piece of wood and my rabbits foot)
Well todays the day, suns out, no wind, so off it comes but after a hearty breakfast of course, lol
watch out for a guide to removing your cylinder head! may as well as i got all day!
91supra313
30-03-09, 10:38 AM
good work Mark! Now we just need a guide on how to port and polish the head...lol.
steve.82
30-03-09, 11:59 AM
http://users.tpg.com.au/users/loats/technical/7mge/headporting.html
Ooops!
No 6
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb254/broad55/Supra%20head%20gasket/Guide/30032009747.jpg
And No5
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb254/broad55/Supra%20head%20gasket/Guide/30032009748.jpg
Seems some welding is to be done!!
6 & 5
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb254/broad55/Supra%20head%20gasket/Guide/30032009742.jpg
4 & 3
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb254/broad55/Supra%20head%20gasket/Guide/30032009743.jpg
2 & 1
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb254/broad55/Supra%20head%20gasket/Guide/30032009744.jpg
john89t
30-03-09, 07:24 PM
you'll need it machined then...:yes:,
now then mr speedy..why not whip the engine out and get the block decked before fitting that mhg? then you won't have to carry a rabbits foot around will you :)..:happy3:
john89t
30-03-09, 07:39 PM
all joking aside mate, if your stuck you can "borrow" the head off the engine i have here?..i might even whip it off for you...(for a sunday dinner :))
I priced up ARP main and rod studs yesterday! hmmm!
No i leave the block where it is and prep it by hand or il have another summer with NO Supra on the road.....Thanks you for your very Gracious offer John, il see if i can get this one sorted though!
john89t
30-03-09, 07:52 PM
I priced up ARP main and rod studs yesterday! hmmm!
No i leave the block where it is and prep it by hand or il have another summer with NO Supra on the road.....
anyone got a spare rabbits foot for Mark? :D
91supra313
30-03-09, 08:02 PM
he can use mine once I actually get my head back together. I won't need it then. I have about a dozen here now...lol.
Suprapower
30-03-09, 09:13 PM
anyone got a spare rabbits foot for Mark? :D
I think every 7m mk.iiii owner should have one, dangling from the rear view mirror, to ward off the evil little BHG gremlins. :)
If i run short if rabbits feet i got a few cats here i could whips some feet from, if they work as well?
john89t
30-03-09, 11:03 PM
If i run short if rabbits feet i got a few cats here i could whips some feet from, if they work as well?
No they won't work, but at least you'll have nine lives :)
No they won't work, but at least you'll have nine lives :)
Per foot? lol
Today i stipped the head, all valves and stuff, the guide seals on the exhaust side where nearly all buggered big time, no wonder i was burning oil, lol
This on the right is a buggered inlet seal next to a really buggered exhaust seal on the left.. the top half of it has virtually disapeared leaving the spring just sitting on the top of it..
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb254/broad55/Supra%20head%20gasket/Head%20stripping/31032009761.jpg
Exhaust Camshaft oil seal was also buggered, the spring was hanging out of it!
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb254/broad55/Supra%20head%20gasket/Head%20stripping/31032009759.jpg
Valves and all the gubbins stored in a safe place and numbered
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb254/broad55/Supra%20head%20gasket/Head%20stripping/31032009765.jpg
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb254/broad55/Supra%20head%20gasket/Head%20stripping/31032009764.jpg
Two casualties of the day though, one i suspect more serious than the other, first off i broke the top of the green temp sensor when carrying head through the house, so im after one of these please, anyone?
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb254/broad55/Supra%20head%20gasket/Head%20stripping/31032009755.jpg
the other problem is No 1 spark plug was so tight it snapped a 3/8 drive extension, then the plug metal has actually snapped in half!!
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb254/broad55/Supra%20head%20gasket/Head%20stripping/31032009784.jpg
leaving the threaded part in the head still BUT WITH NO HEX to fit int plug spanner, so how the helll does that come out? and bearing in mind it was tight enough to snap an extension bar!
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb254/broad55/Supra%20head%20gasket/Head%20stripping/31032009780.jpg
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb254/broad55/Supra%20head%20gasket/Head%20stripping/31032009782.jpg
So should i now consider another head?, also considering i need this welded and then the surface prepped as well as the bloody spark plug thread thats still in there to be removed??
Martin P
31-03-09, 06:32 PM
I was Quoted approx £100 to have my head welded and skimmed, an Engine Rebuilder would be able to remove the broken plug,
you could try drilling it out yourself, increasing the hole by one drill size at a time, But another replacement head would be better,(cheaper, easier)
john89t
31-03-09, 07:28 PM
i think it's time you thought about another head mate, my offer still stands..
you can have the head off the engine i have here, as long as you replace it with an equivalent condition one...when your in a position to do so :yes:..
ps..i can weld it, but you'll need a better finish then a 9" grinder will leave :)
i think it's time you thought about another head mate, my offer still stands..
you can have the head off the engine i have here, as long as you replace it with an equivalent condition one...when your in a position to do so :yes:..
ps..i can weld it, but you'll need a better finish then a 9" grinder will leave :)
Hmm! seems to be a good idea now! maybe i shall give you a ring?
could try an "easy out" stud extractor?,, never worked for me but might work here..
could try an "easy out" stud extractor?,, never worked for me but might work here..
If its tight enough to snap a 3/8 drive extension then snap it self i think an easy out will only follow suite, but i do have to say i have never had any luck with easy outs, and i have tried enough times to have got to a point when i know its not worth trying them again, lol
My heads been checked, its not warped at all BUt needs £200 worth of welding done THEN £50 for surface preparation....
I been offered to have just literally the welding done, i will have to clean up the corosion though ready to weld, then maybe take the surface back to somewhere near normal ready for surface prep......
May be an interesting project to do? and while im active with a dremmel i can do some port matching too! maybe?
steve.82
02-04-09, 11:31 AM
So much to clean up in the stock ports! If you're going to match it then you may as well flow it a bit. I have my scrap head I was going to practice on. You can have 3cyl of it if you want some practice?
mark mark mark mark do your self a favour use that head to practice porting, we have 2 or 3 head's here atm in unknown condition it'll be soooo much cheaper too do it on one of these an less likely to go bang!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dino Dino Dino Dino, lol
yes i spose you right!!
Well thanks to Dino and Sean i have sorced another head, collecting it on Saturday morning!
Cheers Dino and Sean, good men you are.....
terry steward
03-04-09, 09:55 AM
"My heads been checked, its not warped at all"
jury's out on that one !!!!http://www.mkiiisupra.net/bbs/images/icons/icon10.gif
"My heads been checked, its not warped at all"
jury's out on that one !!!!http://www.mkiiisupra.net/bbs/images/icons/icon10.gif
Haha, it may not be wraped but its completely buggered! lol
91supra313
03-04-09, 10:47 AM
Might be getting in touch with you Mark reguarding reassembly of my head. at least the vaccuum lines and what not.
supradupra.com
03-04-09, 10:48 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by terry steward View Post
"My heads been checked, its not warped at all"
jury's out on that one !!!!
it may not be warped but its completely buggered
Another victim of "religious schooling" ? .... Those vicars....
Another victim of "religious schooling" ? .... Those vicars....
How very dare you sir!!! was a bishop! :)
Might be getting in touch with you Mark reguarding reassembly of my head. at least the vaccuum lines and what not.
The thing that confuses people i think is the fact that you cant see where they go!
If you haven't got EGR its actually quite simple!
The large metal pipe going down the front of the the manifold splits to the pas idle up (across front of engine) as it bends under the manifold then feeds a vsv for fuel pressure, it then feeds the vac pipes for your BOV! the other end of the fuel pressure vsv goes back up a smaller metal pipe and onto the fuel pressure reg! thats it....................i think, lol
steve.82
03-04-09, 01:12 PM
There's another that goes to a sensor on the inner wing too, can't think of any others, besides the brake servo feed
Martin P
03-04-09, 01:42 PM
There's another that goes to a sensor on the inner wing too, can't think of any others, besides the brake servo feed
Near the Abs Block on RHD its for Stock boost sensor,
steve.82
03-04-09, 01:46 PM
Near the Abs Block on RHD its for Stock boost sensor,
That's the one. Is there a little one at the back of the manifold for the gauge too?
There's another that goes to a sensor on the inner wing too, can't think of any others, besides the brake servo feed
Ah yes the boost gauge sensor, don't that come from the rear vac outlet? reason im unsure of this is mine don't have that sensor as it was once an n/a!!
And i did a little close up work of the old head, some pics of the corrosion around the coolant channels all on the exhaust side of the head, see below!
Number 1
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb254/broad55/Supra%20head%20gasket/Head%20stripping/Detailed%20corrosion/03042009801.jpg
Number 2
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb254/broad55/Supra%20head%20gasket/Head%20stripping/Detailed%20corrosion/03042009802.jpg
Number 3
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb254/broad55/Supra%20head%20gasket/Head%20stripping/Detailed%20corrosion/03042009803.jpg
Number 4
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb254/broad55/Supra%20head%20gasket/Head%20stripping/Detailed%20corrosion/03042009804.jpg
Number 5
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb254/broad55/Supra%20head%20gasket/Head%20stripping/Detailed%20corrosion/03042009805.jpg
And Number 6
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb254/broad55/Supra%20head%20gasket/Head%20stripping/Detailed%20corrosion/03042009806.jpg
The inlet side coolant channels where better but still needed work...so head is now scrap, may take it to the local scrappy and see what they offer me for it?
91supra313
03-04-09, 05:10 PM
I have an idea! If you can hold off on taking that out to the scrap, I will chat with Rich and see if he has space for it to bring over here. I would like to get some practice port and polishing. Will give you a few quid for it if I can talk the wife into it.
I have an idea! If you can hold off on taking that out to the scrap, I will chat with Rich and see if he has space for it to bring over here. I would like to get some practice port and polishing. Will give you a few quid for it if I can talk the wife into it.
I was thinking of doing the same :)
geronimo
03-04-09, 07:10 PM
wouldn`t bother with the scrappy mark just weighed mine in today along with an old set of sawblades and odds and sods and got £26.50 for the lot
extendor
03-04-09, 07:14 PM
I have a theory. Call me daft but what about a head saver shim. The theory goes like this. Laser cut a piece of 1mm aluminium to match the ports and put it under the machined head before the normal gasket. Would it work.
I can get laser cut ali no probs.
Chris
Martin P
03-04-09, 07:21 PM
I have a theory. Call me daft but what about a head saver shim. The theory goes like this. Laser cut a piece of 1mm aluminium to match the ports and put it under the machined head before the normal gasket. Would it work.
I can get laser cut ali no probs.
Chris
They do compression plate, for fords etc, to lower compression for Tubbie conversions etc, Just use a stock H/G on each side. So it could be a good Idea
In that case my heads is for sale for £100.........lol :)
Seriously though its a good idea but i would think on nothing more than stock boost though....
Martin P
03-04-09, 07:42 PM
In that case my heads is for sale for £100.........lol :)
Seriously though its a good idea but i would think on nothing more than stock boost though....
whys that? would seal as good as original?
extendor
03-04-09, 07:50 PM
I dont think you could use a gasket between the head and the shim. The compression sealing rings would miss the eroded edges of the waterways. My idea is to add just the shim onto the best face that you can get from the block. So long as the waterways are not corroded to the outside I reckon it would work.
I did consider this approach a while back on my silver one which had very bad corrosion. When I cleaned it up there was a hairs width between the corrosion and the outside world so I had it welded. Otherwise I would have given it a go.
And another thought. I also reckon you could fill the holes with metal putty before machining. That would ensure the ali shim was fully supported on both sides.
Hmm, I like this idea. Who wants to try.
whys that? would seal as good as original?
I was just thinking a stock Toyota gasket is best only realy gauranteed safe on stock boost or little over, thats what i meant....
91supra313
03-04-09, 10:18 PM
Well, so there goes my idea of buying it from you. Hope it all works out.
Sexy Sexy very very Sexy, head!
From left to right, Exhaust side chanels 1, 2 and 3
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb254/broad55/Supra%20head%20gasket/new%20head/04042009811.jpg
And,
4, 5 and 6. And not a snapped spark plug in sight.
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb254/broad55/Supra%20head%20gasket/new%20head/04042009812.jpg
So now i can strip yet another head, have it steam cleaned, and grind in the valves and rebuild with new guide seals...
Thanks to Dino and Sean for the pleasent chat and plentifull cups of coffee....
edit, Im off now to look for n/a and turbo inlet cam profile charts (lift and/or duration) to see if i have an n/a head, if thats aplicable?? if i have an n/a head il use the n/a inlet cam...
glad you liked, coffee is always here lol.
You got home early then, lol
And i found cam lobe sizes for GTE and GE, now i spoke with John89 and he thinks (?) that from 1988/9 the GTE and GE cams are the same?
Can anyone shed some light on this?
http://www.cygnusx1.net/Supra/Library/TSRM/MK3/manual.aspx?S=EM&P=48
lol if it is a na head it is pre face lift
lol if it is a na head it is pre face lift
do you mean that facelift n/a and turbo cams the same then?
terry steward
04-04-09, 10:16 PM
"Sexy Sexy very very Sexy, head"! !!!, blimey,is that the first time you,ve been given head ?
You got home early then, lol
And i found cam lobe sizes for GTE and GE, now i spoke with John89 and he thinks (?) that from 1988/9 the GTE and GE cams are the same?
Can anyone shed some light on this?
no i'm saying that if it is a N/A head you got it is pre 88/89.
so it will def be different if it's a na head lol
oh an i'm still working just on a 30min inbetween jobs break
terry steward
04-04-09, 11:25 PM
Oh by the way dino,hanna barbera are contemplating selling the screening rights of the flintstones to the united emerates,,,,,,yeah apparently, dubai dont want it,but abu dhabi do !!!!
pmsl memememememememememe
i've just finished work now mark :p such a nice short shift lol
"Sexy Sexy very very Sexy, head"! !!!, blimey,is that the first time you,ve been given head ?
By a man, yes! :eek:
At least he was a handsome bugger who offered pleanty of coffee! :)
oh and 6:57am....il ring you at 9:57am just before lights go green :yes:
terry steward
05-04-09, 12:12 PM
oh and 6:57am....il ring you at 9:57am just before lights go green :yes: ???
eh, what ?
Stevieboy
05-04-09, 12:26 PM
oh and 6:57am....il ring you at 9:57am just before lights go green :yes: ???
eh, what ?
Formula 1 Terry, Malaysian GP
terry steward
05-04-09, 12:28 PM
Formula 1 Terry, Malaysian GP
AH got it got it got it !!!!!,yeah ,mmmmm, well you know dont you !!!!???? the saga continues !!
AH got it got it got it !!!!!,yeah ,mmmmm, well you know dont you !!!!???? the saga continues !!
Saga continues?? cheap old man insurance?
explain please?
terry steward
05-04-09, 06:29 PM
Saga continues?? cheap old man insurance?
explain please?
pm,d !!
pm,d !!
no no no! i meant you and Saga insurance! Doh! lol but i got your drift, lol
Anyhow today i striped my new head and my word its in very very good condition, all the valve stem seals where in one piece and the valves where nice n snug in the guides too! the valve seats are much cleaner with much less pitting in the exhaust side than my other head and the camshaft bearing surfaces are better then my originals too so all in all im really impressed with it and very very happy.
Thanks again Dino and Sean....
terry steward
05-04-09, 08:17 PM
Nice one m8 !!!,weds still on over here ?, and what about the fitting ?
Things are now thankfully moving on, i took my new stripped head to the machine shop yesterday and got it back but not finished to anywhere near the smoothness of 30RA i asked for (it was more like 60 to 70 i think?) when questioned i was told "thats the best we could do" and it had an 8 though warp removed so next step was 1200 grit wet n dry and after a surprisingly small amount of time (15mins) it is now F-ing smooth, im very happy.
you cant even see the machine marks let alone feel them!
ths pic is before i wet flatted it...
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb254/broad55/Supra%20head%20gasket/new%20head/17042009862.jpg
So this afternoon the valve grinding started, i now have all the new stem seals fitted and all the inlet valves ground in with springs and buckets and cam fitted to keep them in place, tomorrow the exhaust side to do, this is where i expect to be using the "course" grinding paste, lol....
Oh, and not a valve spring compressor in sight, i managed very well with a half used roll of insulation tape, a 13mm ring spanner, needle nose pliers and a little piece of 22mm copper pipe!
this is an inlet valve seat with the valve up turned next to it to the left after grinding in.
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb254/broad55/Supra%20head%20gasket/new%20head/18042009866.jpg
lookin cool m8, be good too have it all done an back together lol
lookin cool m8, be good too have it all done an back together lol
Cor blimey dont ya know it.....im really looking forward to it, almost more than Terry Steward was his, lol
terry steward
19-04-09, 09:53 AM
I have the permatex now,well after they said it was gonna be delivered !!!,and eds promised can,simply didnt turn up at all,but you can use this can m8 !!,and return whats left to gt !!
I have the permatex now,well after they said it was gonna be delivered !!!,and eds promised can,simply didnt turn up at all,but you can use this can m8 !!,and return whats left to gt !!
Thanx but i don't need any mate! mine is brand new and has the vitreous coating on it!
Just as well Ed don't work in the medical supplies business :yes: lol
Things moved on very well today, got all the valves ground in AND fitted, i had to use a spring compressor to do the exhaust valves as doing it the ring spanner method meant removing the inlet cam to close the valves and i just couldn't be assed, lol
Nearly all of them are shimmed up too to Toyota's min spec but i had issues with the club shim kit, there wasn't any in there over 3.0mm and i needed some at 3.15mm to 3.20mm so i may have to buy some?
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb254/broad55/Supra%20head%20gasket/new%20head/19042009878.jpg
And i also got all my new Exhaust manifold studs fitted with permanent threadlock all ready to go, 2 of the stud holes had been helicoiled but they are 20mm helicoils so still better than the 11mm of thread the stock studs bite into!
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb254/broad55/Supra%20head%20gasket/new%20head/19042009880.jpg
need some thicker shims though!!
i think that you can use some ford focus ones as there the same but cheaper. do a search :D
Stevieboy
19-04-09, 07:10 PM
You could always try to grind the valves in a bit more; that will reduce the thickness of shim required Mark.
You could always try to grind the valves in a bit more; that will reduce the thickness of shim required Mark.
Yes i know BUT i hate grinding in valves, especially on a 24 valve head, so im not doing it again! so......Sod That!! lol
Stevieboy
19-04-09, 07:48 PM
Yes i know BUT i hate grinding in valves, especially on a 24 valve head, so im not doing it again! so......Sod That!! lol
You said you only need to do 8 of them, not 24.
You said you only need to do 8 of them, not 24.
Still.............Sod That!
Il just get some shims, Fords are 80p each apparently!! and theres a chance they may be in stock?
extendor
19-04-09, 10:31 PM
Mark, when you say min spec what do you mean. Min clearance so the valve is at Max opening during cycle.
Mark, when you say min spec what do you mean. Min clearance so the valve is at Max opening during cycle.
Yes, 0.15mm for inlet and 0.20mm for exhaust. too small a clearance and it produces a lumpy idle!
Today was spray day! upper inlet, throttle body, tps, idle speed control body and stepper motor.
Turbo and manifold heat shields, pas pump adjustment bracket, cam pulley back plate, pcv pipe and throttle cable bracket too!
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb254/broad55/Supra%20head%20gasket/20042009885.jpg
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb254/broad55/Supra%20head%20gasket/20042009890.jpg
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb254/broad55/Supra%20head%20gasket/20042009892.jpg
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb254/broad55/Supra%20head%20gasket/20042009893.jpg
And make hay while the sun shines!
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb254/broad55/Supra%20head%20gasket/20042009895.jpg
Today was manifold build day!
I'm very very pleased with it, and i replaced all the bolts with cap head screws while i was at it....
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb254/broad55/Supra%20head%20gasket/21042009903.jpg
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb254/broad55/Supra%20head%20gasket/21042009899.jpg
And look close? do you see the two small vac pipes that come from top of throttle body? there gone, thank god!!
i twisted them out with pliers, drilled the holes to 4.5mm, then cut a M6 thread and fitted them with grub screws with some RTV sealer as well just for good measure!
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb254/broad55/Supra%20head%20gasket/21042009900.jpg
Stevieboy
21-04-09, 06:53 PM
Should have filled the grub screw heads before you painted it.
Should have filled the grub screw heads before you painted it.
Na..i like them exposed!
terry steward
21-04-09, 11:24 PM
looking good !!!
Looking well good Mark, nice work
Yeh!!!
Head is finished, new guide seals, valves ground and, AND all valve clearances within Toyotas specifications! not as small as i wanted but all within spec so im happy!
Just engine bay to tart up and block surface to attack and it will be going back together!
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb254/broad55/Supra%20head%20gasket/Shimmedandready001.jpg
steve.82
22-04-09, 08:58 PM
Please find a way to get the varnish off the cams and tell me what it is! :)
mrroverrover
22-04-09, 09:10 PM
What is that clear beer lke then? :)
I heard about that on the radio.
Lower inlet and fuel rail finished, and i really very pleased with the fuel rail!
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb254/broad55/Supra%20head%20gasket/24042009927.jpg
I managed to pick up all the missing brackets that support the exhaust manifold only to find the bracket that fits the bottom of themanifold outlet flange has no where to fit too!!!
I have the old pressed steel mount brackets with "square" engine mounts and i think the mounting for this bracket is on the newer ally engine mount brackets, so i have sourced some with semi solid engine mounts attached as well, i am collecting them tomorrow!
Getting there slowly slowly getting there!
Martin P
26-04-09, 10:43 PM
I managed to pick up all the missing brackets that support the exhaust manifold only to find the bracket that fits the bottom of themanifold outlet flange has no where to fit too!!!
I have the old pressed steel mount brackets with "square" engine mounts and i think the mounting for this bracket is on the newer ally engine mount brackets, so i have sourced some with semi solid engine mounts attached as well, i am collecting them tomorrow!
Getting there slowly slowly getting there!
Hope you have a 89 on subframe then?
Hope you have a 89 on subframe then?
You know i dont!, whats the differences?
and if they not going to fit il have to make do without the lower support bracket...
i did think the newer mounts are longer than the ones i have so i assumed the mount brackets are shorter??
Martin P
27-04-09, 06:45 AM
Obviously i dont, whats the differences?
and if they not going to fit il have to make do without it!!!!
i did think the newer mounts are longer than the ones i have so i assumed the mount brackets are shorter??
newer mounts on older subframe= bonnet not closing, they are not interchangeable sadly.
mrroverrover
27-04-09, 09:00 AM
Is it possibly more to do with UK prefacelifts all being na from the factory?
I assume they changed the subframe when they put the proper engine in it?
Il pick up the newer mounts and brackets and see whats different! i would have thought the subs the same and its the brackets that are different, as they ARE defo different, i got pressed steel ones, the newer ones are ally, they may be shorter to accommodate the longer newer mounts? the mount brackets certainly look shorter in the EPC.....
Old pressed steel ones i have
http://www.cygnusx1.net/Supra/Library/EPC/291220/catalog.aspx?F=1107&P=1
Newer ally ones i want
http://www.cygnusx1.net/Supra/Library/EPC/291220/catalog.aspx?F=1107&P=2
If it is indeed the sub frame thats different then i should still be ok as its actually the bracket i want to change, was only changing the mounts as they have the threaded hole for the lower manifold support bracket!!
edit!
Well cancel all the above, the sub frame is different, but its the angles that the mounts sit at that is the difference, i cant use the brackets which was my main goal as the angles on these is also different, the new mount brackets are indeed shorter to accommodate the longer mounts as i thought, but the angle of the mounting point on the sub frame is different, not higher just different! Dam!!
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb254/broad55/27042009953.jpg
So unless i change my sub frame, which i ain't going to do, il do without the lower manifold support bracket, i still have the top one and the stay bar!
After i fit the head and the exhaust manifold i can see whats needed to maybe fabricate one or alter the stock one to fit somewhere solid
Been busy again today with engine bay bits n bobs, oil drained and new filter fitted, a few "red" bits went on as well, got to thank Rob for the crank pulley/damper, it come up a lot better than mine and looks the nuts, cheers Rob....
and managed to start fitting a few cap head screws today as well, maybe a little over the top but nicer than bolts still....lol
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb254/broad55/Supra%20head%20gasket/Engine%20bay%20work/28042009964.jpg
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb254/broad55/Supra%20head%20gasket/Engine%20bay%20work/28042009963.jpg
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb254/broad55/Supra%20head%20gasket/Engine%20bay%20work/28042009969.jpg
and yes the p.a.s. pump pulley will be Red too, its currently drying in me shed!
I been considering risking hammerite smooth on the cam covers but i wasnt sure if it would stand the heat? Then i realised the cam pulley back plate i did in black hemmerite a year ago AND the Rover cabby cam cover is done in it too, they both still looking real good so there ya go, Red it is!
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb254/broad55/Supra%20head%20gasket/29042009981.jpg
Penfold
29-04-09, 09:52 PM
You could have taken the bracket off to get a nicer finish, I dunno!:)
yeah i know, at least you wont be able to see under it so easily when it fitted.....:)
Bad camera angle, lol
mrroverrover
29-04-09, 10:01 PM
You could have taken the bracket off to get a nicer finish, I dunno!:)
Could have painted it a different colour for a nicer finish :duck:
Only joshing :) It's coming on better than mine at the mo :(
I picked up a nice little EGR block off plate for the plenum today from Driftworks, billet ally and threaded as well.
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb254/broad55/Supra%20head%20gasket/080520091062.jpg
And when fitted with a vac take off it makes a perfect point to connect my map sensor vac pipe to, the egr channel in the plenum stops directly in front of the throttle butterfly so i reckon thats a good point for the map sensor to take its pressures from.
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb254/broad55/Supra%20head%20gasket/080520091065.jpg
I been after an independent connection for the map sensor for ages and this fits the bill just perfect!
steve.82
08-05-09, 05:40 PM
Hmmm strange things happen at the end corners of plenums, hope it works ok though!
Hmmm strange things happen at the end corners of plenums, hope it works ok though!
No No No young sir, the channel the egr goes into runs through the inside of the plenum and terminates right infront of the throttle butterfly!
Have a look next time one is off!
Its an excelent point to pick up changing pressure from an opening and closing throttle i would think!
YEHNESS!
Its on and i have the healthy glow of one who has just torqued his own head down, lol
and i couldnt resist trying a few bits on aswell...
About an hour with 600 grit, then another hour with 1200 grit and i used WD40 (not water) for a finer finish. there was still some marks in the metal but the finger nail test showed they where just marks with no roughness at all..
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb254/broad55/Supra%20head%20gasket/Going%20back%20together/080520091075.jpg
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb254/broad55/Supra%20head%20gasket/Going%20back%20together/080520091081.jpg
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb254/broad55/Supra%20head%20gasket/Going%20back%20together/080520091088.jpg
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb254/broad55/Supra%20head%20gasket/Going%20back%20together/080520091086.jpg
So im looking good for 5 weeks time, my goal is getting it finished for the June Essex meet.
I made some mods to the fixings for the cam pulley back plate, the bolts catch on the Titan adjustable pulleys, so i counter sunk the holes in the plate and the head and got some stainless steel M6x10mm counter sunk cap head screws....
These screws
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb254/broad55/Supra%20head%20gasket/Going%20back%20together/080520091072.jpg
Counter sinking in plate
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb254/broad55/Supra%20head%20gasket/Going%20back%20together/080520091068.jpg
And counter sinking in head
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb254/broad55/Supra%20head%20gasket/Going%20back%20together/080520091071.jpg
Looks like this when fitted
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb254/broad55/Supra%20head%20gasket/Going%20back%20together/080520091069.jpg
Nice and flush, will do final fit with thread lock of course!
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb254/broad55/Supra%20head%20gasket/Going%20back%20together/080520091070.jpg
Back plate is being re painted as the counter sinking removed to much of the soft paint! (Doh!) will look good i think under the clear cam pulley cover...
Done a little bit more today, cam pulleys and back plate, timed up, lower inlet and fuel rail and injectors fitted and all where poss with stainless cap head screws, and fitted the stainless steel spark plug valley cover with RTV sealer on the threads of the plugs as the O rings are long gone.
My idea for the counter sunk back plate fixings worked well, im pleased.
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb254/broad55/Supra%20head%20gasket/Going%20back%20together/090520091092.jpg
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb254/broad55/Supra%20head%20gasket/Going%20back%20together/090520091096.jpg
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb254/broad55/Supra%20head%20gasket/Going%20back%20together/090520091099.jpg
One casualty though, exhaust cam cover snapped at rear!! must have overtightened it??
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb254/broad55/090520091102.jpg
i've got a few tubby cam covers here m8 if you want can sort one out for ya an give it too be when i see him on the 23rd.
i've got a few tubby cam covers here m8 if you want can sort one out for ya an give it too be when i see him on the 23rd.
Thanks Dean, but i got one painted and fitted already...
So today i fitted the loom through the lower manifold and it dawned on me what an ugly shape the loom is! Ugly bends and it goes from thick to thin as well...propper ugly ugly ugly!
I unwrapped it which allowed me to re shape it, then re-wrapped it in the shape i wanted, and bingo, nice and neat and goes where i want it too, also fitted a nice stainless P clip on the bracket on the bulkhead. I now have the VPC intake air temp sensor wire coming out of the main loom with No5 and 6 injector.
before, ugly fat black loom,
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb254/broad55/Supra%20head%20gasket/Going%20back%20together/P26-08-08_16291.jpg
After, nice and neet....it used to be as high as the holes to the left of the wiper motor!!
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb254/broad55/Supra%20head%20gasket/Going%20back%20together/100520091105.jpg
And my map sensor outlet gave me another idea, the map sensor will now be on the bulk head virtually next to the outlet on the end of the plenum, no more than 4" of pipework with the filter in it of course...
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb254/broad55/Supra%20head%20gasket/Going%20back%20together/100520091110.jpg
I got this far before the Grand prix...lol
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb254/broad55/Supra%20head%20gasket/Going%20back%20together/100520091111.jpg
lookin good but could you not get a red timing belt???? an please tell me your gonna swap the blue silicon for red alwell other than that though loking great :D
I got my M12x1.25mmx70mm cap head screw, had to chop about 15mm off to make it fit, was a tad long!
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb254/broad55/Supra%20head%20gasket/130520091143.jpg
Quick question mark, when sanding the top of the block with 600 and 1200 grit, are you blocking up the pistons/oilways/coolant channels? I wanted to clean the surface of the Mk2 Golf's head, but was mortified at the prospect of scraping a bit of gasket into somewhere it shouldn't go!
Quick question mark, when sanding the top of the block with 600 and 1200 grit, are you blocking up the pistons/oilways/coolant channels? I wanted to clean the surface of the Mk2 Golf's head, but was mortified at the prospect of scraping a bit of gasket into somewhere it shouldn't go!
When i pulled the old gasket away very little was left on the block, so i didnt have to worry..
i have done a thousand head gaskets and never had a problem from this...just be carefull..
oh and when i "sanded it" as you put it, lol i used WD40 as a lubricant, thought it better for the inards than water, lol, and i was advised il get a smoother finish by my engineer friend.
So just WD40 and sand it with great abandon without plugging the oilways? Sounds dangerous :(
So just WD40 and sand it with great abandon without plugging the oilways? Sounds dangerous :(
Not realy, spin the crank over untill a little oil comes out the gallery and IF anything has gone in it will soon come out!
mrroverrover
13-05-09, 09:53 PM
i have done a thousand head gaskets
REALLY? :eek:
:)
REALLY? :eek:
:)
Ive told you a million times, don't exaggerate!
Well today things moved on a lot. got the inlet side finished, i used stainless steel cap heads where poss, as you can see below on the upper to lower manifold fixings.
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb254/broad55/Supra%20head%20gasket/Going%20back%20together/Day%202/140520091159.jpg
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb254/broad55/Supra%20head%20gasket/Going%20back%20together/Day%202/140520091160.jpg
Then the exhaust manifold with my new studs, everything here was done with copper grease on the threads to hopefully stop the stainless nuts seizing onto the mild steel studs, and as i used spring washer i didn't bother locking 2 nuts together, they all torqued up to 30lb ft very very nicely, i fitted my shiny new Cometic metal manifold gasket as well.
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb254/broad55/Supra%20head%20gasket/Going%20back%20together/Day%202/140520091164.jpg
and again stainless cap heads for the heat shields as well
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb254/broad55/Supra%20head%20gasket/Going%20back%20together/Day%202/140520091166.jpg
then the bloody turbo, its only took a little while to bolt it into place on the manifold and oil feed/return, i was surprised, and there was a lot of swearing doing the oil feed/return...
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb254/broad55/Supra%20head%20gasket/Going%20back%20together/Day%202/140520091170-1.jpg
Then my sexy Titan down pipe to turbo, you will notice theres no studs from my CT26, i removed them for cap head bolts due to no clearance next to the actual down pipe.
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb254/broad55/Supra%20head%20gasket/Going%20back%20together/Day%202/140520091167.jpg
then heat shields and things inc the upper support bracket that was missing before...
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb254/broad55/Supra%20head%20gasket/Going%20back%20together/Day%202/140520091174-1.jpg
then thermostat housing and that delightful little elbow hose under neath it, lol
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb254/broad55/Supra%20head%20gasket/Going%20back%20together/Day%202/140520091176.jpg
the loom that crosses the front of the engine was secured by cable ties in the cam pulley cover fixing holes, BUT as im now going to use them holes for my clear cover i came up with a wizard wheeze! (as Boris would say)
the rear galley plug with the thread is redundant on my engine, so i swapped it for the front plug, then made up a bracket to bolt to it, then use a cable tie around the loom, job done!
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb254/broad55/Supra%20head%20gasket/Going%20back%20together/Day%202/140520091178.jpg
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb254/broad55/Supra%20head%20gasket/Going%20back%20together/Day%202/140520091179.jpg
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb254/broad55/Supra%20head%20gasket/Going%20back%20together/Day%202/140520091181.jpg
i also like my vac pipes from rear of plenum, very neat and tidy, just 1 tee piece in only one pipe and a dedicated connection for the MAP sensor
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb254/broad55/Supra%20head%20gasket/Going%20back%20together/Day%202/140520091193.jpg
A light lunch!
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb254/broad55/Supra%20head%20gasket/Going%20back%20together/Day%202/140520091171.jpg
new hose for the idle inlet filter
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb254/broad55/Supra%20head%20gasket/Going%20back%20together/Day%202/140520091154.jpg
i tidied up the CPS connector as well, my clip was broken so a couple of red cable ties and a 5mm hole in the CPS sorted that
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb254/broad55/Supra%20head%20gasket/Going%20back%20together/Day%202/140520091183.jpg
So this is end of the day, im very happy but it takes ages when your being extra extra fussy!
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb254/broad55/Supra%20head%20gasket/Going%20back%20together/Day%202/140520091190.jpg
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb254/broad55/Supra%20head%20gasket/Going%20back%20together/Day%202/140520091191.jpg
Oh and my 4x M10x1.25mm thread bolts turned up today as well as hoses, so they now fitted to both cam pulleys and power steering bracket
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb254/broad55/Supra%20head%20gasket/Going%20back%20together/Day%202/140520091162.jpg
mrroverrover
14-05-09, 09:25 PM
Yes very good, can can you give me some of your enthusiasm pills please :)
Few questions.............
1. Are those cap bolts gonna be good enough on the turbo elbow? I'm always worried about rounding them things off which is why I don't really fancy using them.
2. Wheres your sensors from stat cover gone and have you got any big grub screws spare? :)
3. There was something else but so many pics I forgot :)
Yes very good, can can you give me some of your enthusiasm pills please :)
Few questions.............
1. Are those cap bolts gonna be good enough on the turbo elbow? I'm always worried about rounding them things off which is why I don't really fancy using them.
stock head bolts are the same and they 80lb ft, these ones tightened up just fine, they been in since feb 07, thay aren't stainless either....
I have no enthusiasm pills left! sorry! lol
2. Wheres your sensors from stat cover gone and have you got any big grub screws spare? :)
the silly vac thing isnt needed, the blue sensor for air con fans also isnt (and it didnt work anyhow) cant remember the other one, ask Stuey what it was for, i know i didnt need it!!
I can get the large grubs but i cant remember the sizes, bring an old stat cover to tomorrows meet and il get some for you.
3. There was something else but so many pics I forgot :)
:) all too shiny?? :yes:
mrroverrover
14-05-09, 09:42 PM
Bugger I've left it with Dad now, he's gonna get me some made :)
Bugger I've left it with Dad now, he's gonna get me some made :)
get some made? they a regular size i think? my place stockes them i do know!
maybe if your very very nice to me il remove one, run it round the corner and get 3 large grubs for you, hows that????
What a very very nice gesture dont you think?
mrroverrover
14-05-09, 09:54 PM
Yes but there's a little engineering shop under his workshop that can make very nice and interesting bits and bobs.
Shiny shiny :) (and flush to :yes: )
I only need one anyway as I'm keeping my air con :p
Yes but there's a little engineering shop under his workshop that can make very nice and interesting bits and bobs.
Where? whats it called? not "Gandalf engineering" is it??
http://www.bizwiki.co.uk/engineers/622228/gandalf-engineering.htm
i think i remember you mentioning them before? think?
mrroverrover
14-05-09, 10:52 PM
Nope not me as my Dads in Ware :)
Nope not me as my Dads in Ware :)
Ok glad thats sorted, now do you want me to get you one tomorrow?
mrroverrover
14-05-09, 11:30 PM
Ok glad thats sorted, now do you want me to get you one tomorrow?
Oh go on then :)
ITS ALIVE, ITS ALIVE!
And doing very well. 2 small teething points, wrong gasket between throttle body and plenum, its sucking in air.
and
some idiot (lol) forgot to connect the VAC pipe under the inlet that goes up to the blow of valve point!
thats it!
Filled with clean water and run till fans came on, then drained at rad and block, did the same a further two times and im amazed its so clean now!
Ended up i could hear a strange noise, then noticed it running rough and fuel pressure down to 10psi so il stick another gallon in it sometime soon, noise was Walbro passing air no doubt, lol, but for now im very happy!
Took some pics and a vid but photobucket seems to be down??
Stevieboy
15-05-09, 05:45 PM
.......And doing very well. 2 small teething points, wrong gasket between throttle body and plenum, its sucking in air.
and
some idiot (lol) forgot to connect the VAC pipe under the inlet that goes up to the blow of valve point!....
Funnily enough, I had exactly the same problem when I did my retorque and took the throttle body off to clean it out and set the TPS.
Funnily enough, I had exactly the same problem when I did my retorque and took the throttle body off to clean it out and set the TPS.
Was it a 3 layer steel gasket with rubber seal? if so i think they for the N/As, although the shape looked perfect to me!
This is twice in one week i had this problem from these gaskets!
Martin P
15-05-09, 06:19 PM
Was it a 3 layer steel gasket with rubber seal? if so i think they for the N/As, although the shape looked perfect to me!
This is twice in one week i had this problem from these gaskets!
Yep thats a N/a throttle body gasket!
Ignore the high idle, vac pipe under the inlet was left off (Doh!) and slightly sticking throttle due to a spring left off, both sorted now!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWAeBg7vJnI
I got the correct throttle body gasket to fit as well then a vac pipe to blow off valve and its done, it runs with no induction pipes due to it being MAP, no afm!!!
Cool to look into a working turbo....:yes:
john89t
17-05-09, 07:24 AM
nice job mate :yes:...
Stevieboy
17-05-09, 11:24 AM
Was it a 3 layer steel gasket with rubber seal? if so i think they for the N/As, although the shape looked perfect to me!
This is twice in one week i had this problem from these gaskets!
Yep, it looks ok but at the top of the throttle body the gasket has nothing to seal against; there is a cutout behind it. I found another plain gasket in the kit that just needed the centre hole enlarging a bit.
Photobucket up n running again...
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb254/broad55/Supra%20head%20gasket/Going%20back%20together/150520091195.jpg
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb254/broad55/Supra%20head%20gasket/Going%20back%20together/160520091219.jpg
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb254/broad55/Supra%20head%20gasket/Going%20back%20together/150520091202.jpg
Temporary battery connections in the boot!
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb254/broad55/Supra%20head%20gasket/Going%20back%20together/150520091197.jpg
Photobucket up n running again...
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb254/broad55/Supra%20head%20gasket/Going%20back%20together/150520091195.jpg
Clear cover looks very good, almost worth the £92 i paid for it?? lol
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb254/broad55/Supra%20head%20gasket/Going%20back%20together/160520091219.jpg
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb254/broad55/Supra%20head%20gasket/Going%20back%20together/150520091202.jpg
Temporary battery connections in the boot!
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb254/broad55/Supra%20head%20gasket/Going%20back%20together/150520091197.jpg
nelly26
17-05-09, 06:35 PM
looking nice
Its finished, head gasket is done and everything under bonnet is done.
think i will recheck tappets in 100 to 200 miles as i seem to have just one thats a little loud then goes quiet on me, very odd!!!
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb254/broad55/Supra%20head%20gasket/Finished/200520091275.jpg
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb254/broad55/Supra%20head%20gasket/Finished/200520091276.jpg
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb254/broad55/Supra%20head%20gasket/Finished/200520091278.jpg
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb254/broad55/Supra%20head%20gasket/Finished/200520091281.jpg
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb254/broad55/Supra%20head%20gasket/Finished/200520091277.jpg
Looks awsome Mark, bet your well pleased.
mrroverrover
20-05-09, 08:49 PM
Very good :yes:
Wheres that little one way valve thing you told me about?
Very good :yes:
Wheres that little one way valve thing you told me about?
Look at the pcv pipe connection to the throttle body, its under them clips! and them 4 clips im not too happy about! ilo sort something sometime no doubt, i think them crimp on clips would do there, no screw heads to see...
mrroverrover
20-05-09, 08:58 PM
Ah yes I see, good idea that :yes: Think I'll have to completely steal that idea on my build :)
Probably been asked before Mark; you’ve replaced the hose from the back of the head to the heater matrix inlet with what looks like 22mm copper pipe with an air bleeding valve. I can see that being useful for bleeding the coolant system, but how are you supplying the heater matrix with coolant?
Stevieboy
20-05-09, 09:36 PM
Look at the pcv pipe connection to the throttle body, its under them clips! and them 4 clips im not too happy about! ilo sort something sometime no doubt, i think them crimp on clips would do there, no screw heads to see...
Could you not push the valve half way down a single length of hose with the aid of some hot water and lubricant. Gets rid of 2 clips.
Could you not push the valve half way down a single length of hose with the aid of some hot water and lubricant. Gets rid of 2 clips.
Brilliant! it will go into the hose easily as well! Brilliant idea!
Stevieboy
20-05-09, 10:06 PM
Probably been asked before Mark; you’ve replaced the hose from the back of the head to the heater matrix inlet with what looks like 22mm copper pipe with an air bleeding valve. I can see that being useful for bleeding the coolant system, but how are you supplying the heater matrix with coolant?
I think he has a T-piece just before the bleed valve, connected to the pipe at the back of the head.
Yep, brilliant I can see it now, I must have missed it being mesmerised by the site of all those cap screw bolts.
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