Polybush kits

[mick3.0T]

PLEASE NOTE THIS IS AN OLD THREAD FOR REFERENCE ONLY, NO ACCURACY CAN BE GUARANTEED ON PRICES TO DATE

Name....Mick O
Paypal... michaeloliver622@btinternet.com

After my suspension noises i have decided to do the dreaded bushes.
I have emailed george at raptorracing and he can do the front and rear kits for $149 plus $55 shipping.
But if we can get three orders or more the shipping is reduced to roughly $27 each.
So if we can get three or more it will work out $177.00 USD

Reading an old group buy of these, the postage in uk is parcelforce 48hr ins upto £150= £10.99
So that will be £10.90+ paypal = £11.44
They also incurred a £5 custom tax each but there were twelve of them so maybe slightly more.

So $177.00 USD plus £11.44 plus Customs Tax
Myself and Suprapower are interested, just need another.........

There is a 3-4(maybe 6) weeks delay but i am in no hurry.


Here is the list of what you get:
Front Part List:

4- 2749 Upper Control Arm Bushings
4- 2748 Lower Control Arm Bushings
(Rear Facing Position)
4- 2747 Lower Control Arm Bushings
(Front Facing Position)
4 -15.10.602.39 Upper Control Arm Sleeves
4- 15.10.413.39 Lower Control Arm Sleeves
1- 17521 Instruction Sheet
4- 9.11108 Grease (Different quantity supplied with master kit)
(0.812”O.D x 0.562” I.D x 1.945”L)
(1.000”O.D x 0.640” I.D x 2.950”L)

Front install instructions:
http://www.energysuspension.com/pdf_instruc/17521.PDF


Rear Part List:

8- 2752 Upper Control Arm Bushings
4- 2753 Lateral Link Bushings
4- 2754 Rear Toe Link Bushings
4- 2755 Rear Trailing Link Bushings
4- 2756 Spindle to Trailing Link Bushings
10- 15.10.167.39 (.875”O.D x .562”I.D x 1.960”L)
All Positions except spindle to trailing arm position.
2- 15.10.20.39 (.875”O.D x .562”I.D x 1.800”L)
Spindle to Trailing Arm Position.
1- 17522 Instruction Sheet
4- 9.11108 Grease (Different quantity supplied with master kit)

Rear install instructions:
http://www.energysuspension.com/pdf_instruc/17522.PDF

Hope i havent forgot anything.

Anybody else interested ???????

1. Mick 3.0T
2. Suprapower
3. A71jay
4. Supramad77

[a71jay]

i'll have a set.

[supramad77]

Put me down for a set, how long until we have to pay?

[mick3.0T]

I shall probably leave it open until the end of next week to give others a chance.
So friday 8th i shall check and see if there is any more interest then i shall try to order them Monday 11th, once i have recieved payments naturally :)

If thats ok with you lot

[jims v8]

i would like a set please.
1. Mick 3.0T
2. Suprapower
3. A71jay
4. Supramad77
5. jim

[mick3.0T]

Right i have been in contact with George and he has given me his paypal addy so sometime sunday i shall post this up.
Whoever wants a set of these polybushes will then send payment of $149USD
to George.
Also put this message in your paypal payment "Supra Group Oliver", so he knows its a group buy and who they are for.


Once everyone has paid i shall send my payment off along with the total shipping costs which i shall then divide up and request payment from whoever is involved.

Eventually when they arrive at mine i shall sort out postage to whoever is involved and let you know.
I can sort out each persons shipping and postage together if you like which will save on the fees.


What you all say to that ????

[kitt]

i would like a set please...
1. Mick 3.0T
2. Suprapower
3. A71jay
4. Supramad77
5. jim
6. kitt


Please confirm how much you would like deposited into your paypal account in pounds please, and i guess sooner rather than later.

[Martin P]

i would like a set please...
1. Mick 3.0T
2. Suprapower
3. A71jay
4. Supramad77
5. jim
6. kitt


Please confirm how much you would like deposited into your Paypal account in pounds please, and i guess sooner rather than later.

Payments will be in Dollars as its going straight to the vendor, to save fee's etc, But all items will be shipped to Mick for him to send out to individual members,

Please Note, Any import duty will be split between all members of the Group buy, and shipping from Mick to members of the buy is not included in the first payment to the Vendor.

[TwigMeister]

I'm interested, but I'm slightly confused about who I'd be sending the paypal to.

The paypal address in the initial post is for a BT Internet account, to 'Michael Oliver'. It's posted by a avatar, Mick3.0T, who's in Kent. And we're to send $149 US Dollars to this UK address? But its to be marked "Supra Group Oliver" and it's to be addressed to George?

[MKIII]

I'm interested, but I'm slightly confused about who I'd be sending the paypal to.

The paypal address in the initial post is for a BT Internet account, to 'Michael Oliver'. It's posted by a avatar, Mick3.0T, who's in Kent. And we're to send $149 US Dollars to this UK address? But its to be marked "Supra Group Oliver" and it's to be addressed to George?

if you read all the posts
Georges (Raptor Racing) paypal addy, will be posted sunday, you send your payment to him. and you mark it as supra group oliver in the comments box, when the bushes are made (can take upto 6 weeks) they will be sent to Mick3.0T who will post them to you.

[BigSupe]

Don't know if this helps but if you wanted you could send all of the payment to Mick3.0T via paypal for free

When you are in the send payment section there is a tab which says personal payment click that and send the required money with no paypal fees

[MKIII]

Don't know if this helps but if you wanted you could send all of the payment to Mick3.0T via paypal for free

When you are in the send payment section there is a tab which says personal payment click that and send the required money with no paypal fees

you can also send it as money owed, and pay no fees.

[Martin P]

you can also send it as money owed, and pay no fees.

Don't know if this helps but if you wanted you could send all of the payment to Mick3.0T via paypal for free

When you are in the send payment section there is a tab which says personal payment click that and send the required money with no paypal fees


Then you would have too add your address into the comments box, as it doesn't add an address,

Personally, I would stick to paying George direct, then just pay Mick for the shipping(both lots) and any customs charges.

[MKIII]

Then you would have too add your address into the comments box, as it doesn't add an address,

Personally, I would stick to paying George direct, then just pay Mick for the shipping(both lots) and any customs charges.

It is the easiest way of doing it,
and unless your paypal account is already a business account, they hassle you to death about recieving payments.

[Martin P]

It is the easiest way of doing it,
and unless your paypal account is already a business account, they hassle you to death about recieving payments.


I have a premier acc, Dont get any hassles about payments, So far!, But i perfer payments to go direct to the vendor for personal and legal reasons.
plus you then get a paper trail directly to the vendor should a problem arise.

[mick3.0T]

Right before i post up the paypal addy, how many actually are going to buy these ?????
Its no point only two people buying them as we wont get any discount off the shipping.
And are we all happy that you will be paying $149USD to George at raptorracing to buy the kits.
These will be shipped to me and once i find out how much the shipping is it will be divided between all involved.
Then each of you will pay ME postage and i will post them out to you.
There may also be Customs Tax to pay which will also be split between us.

[Suprapower]

1. Mick 3.0T
2. Suprapower - Still in
3. A71jay
4. Supramad77
5. jim
6. kitt

[kitt]

This all seems to be getting a bit confusing, how do we know when everyone has paid up... and whats georges paypal address!??

[Martin P]

This all seems to be getting a bit confusing, how do we know when everyone has paid up... and whats georges paypal address!??


I think Mick is making sure he has enough people Def in to make it worth while, As he needs 3 people min to get the shipping discount,

when the Payment email is posted up, send the required amount for the bushes, then post up updating the list as paid,

Mick will then pay his share and ALL the shipping charges to the UK, these will then be split among all the member's in the buy, plus any import duty.

Hope that clears it up, I do hope this goes ahead,

Come on guys, please confirm with Mick that you do want to be in it.

With the exchange rates and economy in the state is in, this is a good deal.

[kitt]

1. Mick 3.0T
2. Suprapower - Still in
3. A71jay
4. Supramad77
5. jim
6. kitt - still in

[mick3.0T]

Here is the address to send your $149 USD... payments@raptorracing.com
Dont forget to add "Supra Group Oliver" in the payment message
This goes straight to vendor.

Then please reply to thread confirming payment.
Once everybody interested has confirmed payment i will send off mine and the total cost of shipping.
The total cost of shipping will then be divided by all confirmed and paid to me.

[a71jay]

1. Mick 3.0T
2. Suprapower - Still in
3. A71jay - Still in - paid
4. Supramad77
5. jim
6. kitt - still in

[Binxy69]

Still ok to get in on this?

[mick3.0T]

Still ok to get in on this?

Yup just add your name and pay your money to the email addy listed below adding "Supra Group Oliver" in the payment message.

Be sure to add paid next to your name when done :)

[Binxy69]

1. Mick 3.0T
2. Suprapower - Still in
3. A71jay - Still in - paid
4. Supramad77
5. jim
6. kitt - still in
7.Binxy69 - Paid

[Binxy69]

Come on guys lets get this ball rolling, I've gotta fit these things yet, can't wait :-D

[robhojy]

would be good if they sold them individually so people (ME lol) can buy them a pair at a time instead of a whole set

[mick3.0T]

would be good if they sold them individually so people (ME lol) can buy them a pair at a time instead of a whole set

They do but its just as cheap to buy the whole lot

[TwigMeister]

1. Mick 3.0T
2. Suprapower - Still in
3. A71jay - Still in - paid
4. Supramad77
5. jim
6. kitt - still in
7.Binxy69 - Paid
8.Twigmeister - Paid

[mick3.0T]

Three paid already.....come on the rest then i can get them ordered

[Suprapower]

1. Mick 3.0T
2. Suprapower - Still in - paid
3. A71jay - Still in - paid
4. Supramad77
5. jim
6. kitt - still in
7.Binxy69 - Paid
8.Twigmeister - Paid

[kitt]

1. Mick 3.0T
2. Suprapower - Still in - paid
3. A71jay - Still in - paid
4. Supramad77
5. jim
6. kitt - paid
7.Binxy69 - Paid
8.Twigmeister - Paid

[Icy-Supra]

Is this group buy still open, I´m interested in joining if it´s still open.

[RaptorRacing]

Hey Folks;

just wanted to chime in here to show my face and thank you guys for your patience and your business. If anyone has any questions or concerns please don't hesitate to let me know.

Would it be easier for you guys if I started a list of chaps who have sent payment? Let me know as I have no issues doing that but don't' want to if it just confuses/doubles up on the info.

Cheers.

[mick3.0T]

Right I am going to be in touch with george on thursday and pay my money and the shipping on Friday.
So if anyone still wants in on this group buy then i suggest you pay quickly

[steve.82]

Mind if I join in?

[jims v8]

1. Mick 3.0T
2. Suprapower - Still in - paid
3. A71jay - Still in - paid
4. Supramad77
5. jim- paid
6. kitt - paid
7.Binxy69 - Paid
8.Twigmeister - Paid

[supramad77]

1. Mick 3.0T
2. Suprapower - Still in - paid
3. A71jay - Still in - paid
4. Supramad77 -paid
5. jim- paid
6. kitt - paid
7.Binxy69 - Paid
8.Twigmeister - Paid

All paid up

[mick3.0T]

Okey dokey, i shall be in touch with george and find out the total shipping then pay it along with mine

Good show chaps :)

[speedstar]

it too late?!

im well up for this one chaps!!

[Binxy69]

Dude, pay the money to George and stick ya name down, then just wait for the shipping cost to be split between us, pay your dues, and they are yours, simple as...

As long as you get it all in by Thursday, as I understand it...

[speedstar]

Cheers Binxy!

so thats $149 TOTAL for fronts and rears? not each?

to payments@raptorracing.com via paypal?

[speedstar]

1. Mick 3.0T
2. Suprapower - Still in - paid
3. A71jay - Still in - paid
4. Supramad77 -paid
5. jim- paid
6. kitt - paid
7.Binxy69 - Paid
8.Twigmeister - Paid
9. speedstar - paid

[mick3.0T]

Right guys the offer is now closed.
I shall be paying for my set along with the total shipping Tomorrow.

[Binxy69]

Awesome

[RaptorRacing]

Final payment received...order placed. I will update you guys when I have more info but don't expect anything for at least 3 weeks. Thanks again folks.

[speedstar]

Any news?

[mick3.0T]

Not yet mate.

[RaptorRacing]

Gents;

I will get a tracking number the second they are shipped and forward it to Mick. I will call on Monday to find out the status; thanks all for your patience.

[mick3.0T]

Nice one George for keeping us informed

[RaptorRacing]

Order will be shipped by early/mid next week; thanks again folks...cheers.

[mick3.0T]

Well guys i am now in the possession of nine sets of polybushes
So if those involved... I.E
Suprapower
A71jay
Supramad77
jim
kitt
Binxy69
Twigmeister and
speedstar can email me with their names and addresses then i can go to the post office and find out postage costs.
michaeloliver622@btinternet.com
I havent heard from customs yet but will let you all know how much if and when.

Edit:
Total shipping was $120 which works out at £8.50 each, this can be added onto postage to save lots of different payments

Oh and thanks george for all the help :notworthy

[mick3.0T]

Parcelforce 48 is now £12.99.
So £12.99 plus £8.50(shipping)Plus £1 paypal fees =£22.49
This can be paid via paypal to michaeloliver622@btinternet.com
Dont forget to add your address to the payment so i can ship them out

[speedstar]

Suprapower
A71jay
Supramad77
jim
kitt
Binxy69
Twigmeister
speedstar - PAID

[Suprapower]

Suprapower - PAID
A71jay
Supramad77
jim
kitt
Binxy69
Twigmeister
speedstar - PAID

[mick3.0T]

Nice one fellas will be posted first thing monday morning :)

[speedstar]

yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay :D

[supramad77]

Suprapower - PAID
A71jay
Supramad77- PAID
jim
kitt
Binxy69
Twigmeister
speedstar - PAID

All paid

[speedstar]

The all important question.... what colour? :)

[mick3.0T]

Afraid they are just black

Speedstar,Suprapower and Supramad77 all paid and will be posted in the morning :)

[a71jay]

Paid, but can you please send the bushes after the 21st as I am away from the 14th. OR I am in the Dartford area on the 9th of August so could collect from you.

Cheers
Jay

Suprapower - PAID
A71jay - PAID
Supramad77 -PAID
jim
kitt
Binxy69
Twigmeister
speedstar - PAID

[mick3.0T]

You have PM jay

[speedstar]

Arrived this morning! :D
Thanks mick and george! :D

[Suprapower]

Mine too!

A big thanks to Mick for organising and George for supplying. :notworthy

Now to break out the spanners, sockets and swear-box!

Alternatively, where's my mobile...........?:D :)

[mick3.0T]

Glad they arrived promptly.....

Dont forget the pics when you fit them :)

[supramad77]

Yep got mine as well, many thanks.

[supradupra.com]

Dont forget the pics when you fit them

Just thought I'd let you know it's these sets I have just fitted in my build thread if anybody did need to see them and has not already.

Also I did a thread on poly anti roll bar bushes which are off the shelf here in the yUK which may also be of interest as, these kits do not include the anti roll bar bushes which, will inevitably be shot too.

There are no rear anti roll bar bushes for the MK3 apart from some custom jobbies sadly only made by one guy in NZ, which makes them an expensive pair of bushes with shipping etc.

Handily tho, a set of Celica off the shelf bushes can be installed with an easy mod which is also detailed in the thread.

Build Thread (http://www.forum.mkiiisupra.net/showthread.php?t=26771)

Anti roll thread (http://www.forum.mkiiisupra.net/showthread.php?t=27641)

Thought I'd mention this too as, it's not obvious & you'll think your one bush short. One of the bushes on the rear hubs is not a bush at all and is in fact a ball joint. It's item number 42210 HERE (http://www.cygnusx1.net/Supra/Library/EPC/291220/catalog.aspx?F=4804&P=1) All you need to do with this is pull back the rubber and refresh the LM grease inside.

If this ball joint is worn it can cause a "clacking" sound under braking etc.

May help a few of you anyways.

[mick3.0T]

Nice one Stu....will def come in handy :)

[Suprapower]

Oh great joy and happiness!:happy2:

I have 4 free front lower wishbone bolts.:cool:

Damn, this car is good to me. Now where's my vaseline.........err, coppaslip:D

177ft-lb torque for your info guys.

[mick3.0T]

Hope mine are the same when i start them :)

[supramad77]

Any special tools required to do this job? I don't really like working under the car so may get mine fitted at a local garage if the job is too much of a PITA.

[Martin P]

No special tools required besides a huge breaker bar, lump hammer and some luck!

My lower ones had to be burnt out! as they where siezed solid, (the bushes not the bolts). and use plenty of grease on the bushes and bolts.

Also you will need to have a full 4wheel alignment done afterwards, to get all the wheels pointing in the right direction.

[supradupra.com]

Pat, if you do take it to a garage make sure they have a proper Press, pref hydraulic so they can just push the bushes out otherwise they just do it the same old way we do but, are not as careful!!

The top wishbone bushes are stupidly easy to push out just in a vice. That's a coupler for some old school steel water pipe acting as the receiver.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v320/supradupra/1jz%20Aero%20Build/JZA70Rebuild3.jpg

In honesty I would say they are all OK to do, just hard work, definitely easier in a good vice :yes:

I found drilling out the rubber around the central crush tubes of the old bushes then, using a vice and various bits of old water pipe etc to push the old crush tubes out worked well. If lots of the rubber is drilled out then the remainder just ripped apart as the tube pushed through. Got through a few drill bits as you get a bit trigger happy removing as much rubber as possible :)

This made it easier then to slit the outer casing of the old bushes with a hacksaw & cold chisel them inwards and push out.

The rear hub bush one of the most awkward to get to, just because it's at a silly angle & that bit smaller so hard to grip etc. Allegedly you can do this without removing the hub by using a puller. It needs to be a puller of biblical strength tho :banghead:

Front lower wish bone Bushes are a little bit of a swine due to the fact they have a folded metal tab round them which either needs to be cut off or cold chiselled over.

Due to the shape of the front wishbones I drafted in Mum to give me a hand with them. I just chiselled over the metal tab all way round then, we got them in the vice with a bit of old water pipe and some other piece of random metal we save for such occasions - think it was an old lower ball joint knuckle - with 2 of us on the vice the old bushes again went crack and just pushed out.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v320/supradupra/1jz%20Aero%20Build/BushingsremovedSmall.jpg

It's kinda down to luck of the draw really.

Tip for the cam bolts, if you find them seized. If you have access to an SDS drill with chisel only option, with a fine point chisel these can come in real handy for pushing them out as they vibrate the fook out of the rust freeing it up. Can work in places the lump hammer refuses to.

The fine point chisel means you don't damage the end of the bolt.

Next weeks tip, how to make glue from an old cat...

[mick3.0T]

Managed to do my nearside lowers this morning and all the bolts came undone without too much hassle :cool:
I remembered about the allen key in the little link bar ;)
Once the lower wishbone was out i just done as mark3 did and burnt out the rubbers then just hacksawed through the thin sleeve that was left and got a small cold chisel and tapped the sleeve out.
Cleaned up the internals, greased them up and the bushes just pushed straight in :cool:
The only hard bit was trying to do up the cam bolts with the car sat on the floor as there isnt alot of ground clearance to get me belly under :D
But out and back in again in about 4 hours.....not bad i think ;)

[mark3]

The only hard bit was trying to do up the cam bolts with the car sat on the floor as there isnt alot of ground clearance to get me belly under :D
But out and back in again in about 4 hours.....not bad i think ;)

I assume the car was on axle stands? so jack the vehicle up on the end of the wishbone till the weight is all on the jack and just of the stand! then leaving axle stand inplace (just in case) tighten away!!

[mick3.0T]

Yes the car was on axle stands, didnt think of jacking up the wishbone doh

What sort of torque are they meant to be as i just did them up nice and tighty with a half inch breaker bar !!

[Suprapower]

TSRM says 177ft-lbs. See step 6(c):

http://www.cygnusx1.net/Supra/Library/TSRM/MK3/manual.aspx?S=FA&P=26

[mick3.0T]

Cheers Bob, i shall check them tomorrow

[mick3.0T]

Have heard from jims v8 and A71jay so just ....

Binxy69, Twigmeister and kitt to get in touch.

Your bushes are here and waiting!!!

[a71jay]

Hi Mick,

Can you just send mine in the post as i'm not sure when i'm going to Caterham in Dartford now.

Cheers
Jay

[jims v8]

thanks mick- paid

[mick3.0T]

Jay and Jim yours will be posted out in the morning

Nice one fellas!!

[mick3.0T]

How the hell do you torque up the big front lower bolts to 240Nm when most 1/2 drive torque wrenches only go up to 210Nm ?????

[Suprapower]

Get a beast of a breaker bar/torque wrench (like mine:)).

Or give Mark a shout.

[Martin P]

For reference when doing the rear lower bushes

48730A = lateral link
48710A = toe link
48780A = trailing link


Rear suspension (http://www.cygnusx1.net/Supra/Library/EPC/Figures/MCR675.gif)

[mick3.0T]

Today i fitted the front upper bushes.
They came out pretty easy :)
Didnt have a puller so i improvised with these...
http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt120/madmickr1/pullerbits.jpg
Making this....
http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt120/madmickr1/pulling.jpg

[mick3.0T]

Twigmeister, yours were posted this morning mate

[mark3]

How the hell do you torque up the big front lower bolts to 240Nm when most 1/2 drive torque wrenches only go up to 210Nm ?????

Get one that goes up to 300nm like mine does, lol

[Martin P]

Get one that goes up to 300nm like mine does, lol

OR Get a local friendly mechanic to double check all the settings once they are installed, I choose to torque them myself with a decent torque wrench, Not come undone yet.

[mick3.0T]

Get one that goes up to 300nm like mine does, lol

Wont be needing it just yet due to this http://www.mkiiisupra.net/bbs/showthread.php?t=27852

But have got a 2ft half inch breaker bar that i did them up with :)

[Retro]

Some of you must have road tested these by now, so how is the improvement over standard / worn bushes?

[Martin P]

Some of you must have road tested these by now, so how is the improvement over standard / worn bushes?

I am running a Front Set at the moment and YES they are better than worn/Std bushes and that is without having the alignment done, My rears are still stock, But in good order, Until I Fit the Ronnie K ones I got from Rob.

[kitt]

Paid, sorry for my tardyness. nice one lads



Suprapower - PAID
A71jay - PAID
Supramad77 -PAID
jim
kitt - PAID
Binxy69
Twigmeister
speedstar - PAID

[mick3.0T]

Nice one John, shall post them tomorrow morning :)

[Binxy69]

Getting paid on the 26th mate, so i'll get the money to you asap.

Would you kindly pm me your paypal account details and the final amount due?

Many Thanks indeed for holding these for me and arranging this all for us.

Jim

[Retro]

I missed out on the group buy because I'm an idiot, but contacted George and he's just sent a set out to me.

How long did yours take to arrive once shipped?

[Thetankwad]

Are there any of these kits going spare?

[mick3.0T]

Are there any of these kits going spare?

Sorry mate all gone.

But george at raptor racing has now joined the site so you could get in touch with him via here :)

Sure his name is "raptorracing"

[mick3.0T]

Forgot to say guys i had the invoice for the Duty/Taxes charges the other week

It works out a total of .................... £16.33

Between the nine of us it works out at £1.81 each

You could either pay this amount to me or just buy me a beer if/when i ever get to see you guys

Seeing as paypal will take another 20p (barstewards) then i shall leave it up to you :)

[Binxy69]

I've had problems removng the bolts from the lower wishbones on the front. I can take the nuts off but the bolts appear to be fused in the bushes and no matter how hard I hit them they don't want to come out...

Am I missing something, or a technique for getting these out. Has anyone else had the same problem?

[Binxy69]

and if I cut them off, does anyone know anywhere to get replacement bolts that won't cost me £16 a bolt like from Toyota :-(

[supradupra.com]

Do you have an SDS drill to had with rotary stop allowing just chisel action?

If so, pop a pointed chisel bit in there, pop the nut back on the end of the cam bolt so as not to damage the thread then, using the SDS drill on hammer only, try driving the bolt out with that.

The high frequency chiselling action of the SDS can vibrate these bolts and free them, well worth a go before hitting the hacksaw :yes:

[Binxy69]

So it is literally a case of getting enough percussion on the bolt to force it out...

I don't have an SDS drill I'm afraid, I cut one side off over the weekend expecting the bolts to be like maybe a fiver, without checking with toyota coz it was the bank holiday. I was so proud of myself.... Damn

I've now got the other side to get off, and I'm not sure how to approach it, guess i just need to hit it harder...

[Bowling rick]

If i understand correctly these are the bolts that have marked washers on them to set the geometry?
I found that if the bolt turned while taking the nut off it tightened against the wishbone (to move the geometry) and wouldn't come out. Backing the bolt off a bit (1/4 turn) allowed it to move and could easily be tapped out.
I didn't think the bolt would turn 360 degrees due to the washer?

[Binxy69]

Front bushes are now fitted. The improvement in drivability is amazing, you can feel so much more through the front end. I'm going to start on the rear bushes very soon.

Cheers

[Retro]

I'll second that, missing out on the group I but bought a set anyway as my front bushes were in a right mood and the front end was slopping about all over the shop!

Vast improvement since I fitted the fronts though, they've really tightenend up the front end and now I decide which direction the car goes, also cured the knocking noise I had when stabbing the brakes or going over bumps.

Result :)

[Sgt Bilko]

Hi guys.
I've contacted George and he has a couple of sets left, so i'm going to order some. The links to the fitting instructions .pdf files on supramania dont seem to work anymore. Does anyone have a copy of these ? . If so could you e-mail them to me at :- cnc@dsl.pipex.com

Cheers guys.

Jon.

[seacombe2379]

Hi guys.
I've contacted George and he has a couple of sets left, so i'm going to order some. The links to the fitting instructions .pdf files on supramania dont seem to work anymore. Does anyone have a copy of these ? . If so could you e-mail them to me at :- cnc@dsl.pipex.com

Cheers guys.

Jon.

If ur ordering a set stick me down for one as the fronts look pretty worn now

Oliver

[Martin P]

Hi guys.
I've contacted George and he has a couple of sets left, so i'm going to order some. The links to the fitting instructions .pdf files on supramania dont seem to work anymore. Does anyone have a copy of these ? . If so could you e-mail them to me at :- cnc@dsl.pipex.com

Cheers guys.

Jon.

Emailed From risingsunAutos@hotmail.co.uk:)

[speedstar]

you get a set of instructions with the kits

[Sgt Bilko]

Thanks for e-mailing the pdf's.

I got this e-mail back from George :-


Jonathan,

I’m soooo sorry. I thought I replied to this but obviously I didn’t . Pricing of the parts is as follows:

Front Kit: $59.50
Rear Kit : $89.50

Shipping: $42 regular; $90 express

Shipping price is the same whether you take one or both sets. The best way to drop the price is the get other chaps in on the deal to share the shipping. Keep in mind though that I only have 2-3 sets in stock…so if you get more there will be a 5 week delay till I am able to get them to you.
Please let me know if you have any other questions.



I'll confirm if there are 2 or 3 sets available.
Ollie, did you want a full set or just the front ?

Cheers
Jon.

[seacombe2379]

sorry for the loooong delay never noticed the reply full set if still availible thanks

Oliver

[mccaff]

Same here, but I'm needing bushes asap.. Anywhere good in the uk that doesn't break the bank?

[Sgt Bilko]

sorry for the loooong delay never noticed the reply full set if still availible thanks

Oliver

Sorry guys, i waited for a bit then got it sorted.
He may still have some left but you'll have to go direct.

Merry Xmas by the way !

Cheers
Jon.

[mccaff]

Hi guys.
I've contacted George and he has a couple of sets left

Jon.


Hi Jon,

How do I go about ordering both sets. Unfortunately, I don't think I know George?

Do you have contact details for him?

Thanks.

[MKIII]

Hi Jon,

How do I go about ordering both sets. Unfortunately, I don't think I know George?

Do you have contact details for him?

Thanks.

I have a full set, that I do not need anymore, £90 +postage, that way you save the import duty and shipping

[mccaff]

PM on the way. Cheers!

[speedstar]

Excuse the bump, but can anyone translate this in to "no1 lower arm", "strut rod" and no2 lower arm"

4- 2753 Lateral Link Bushings
4- 2754 Rear Toe Link Bushings
4- 2755 Rear Trailing Link Bushings
4- 2756 Spindle to Trailing Link Bushings
10- 15.10.167.39 (.875”O.D x .562”I.D x 1.960”L)All Positions except spindle to trailing arm position.
2- 15.10.20.39 (.875”O.D x .562”I.D x 1.800”L)Spindle to Trailing Arm Position.

Im guessing "spindle" is the hub?

[mccaff]

HI,

Got the bushings in the post today. Cant wait to get them onto the motor. - Cheers MKIII!

Not sure what the spindle is either, however there are instructions with diagrams at:

Front - http://www.energysuspension.com/assets/files/pdf/17521.PDF

and

Rear - http://www.energysuspension.com/assets/files/pdf/17522.PDF

Hope this helps.

[mattguttmann]

After fitting new wheels the state of my bushes has become very noticable. Are these still available or would anyone have any sets for sale?

Cheers

Matt

[speedstar]

Still unsure about this. REFERENCE (http://www.cygnusx1.net/Supra/Library/TSRM/MK3/manual.aspx?Section=RA&P=56)

I guess the "rear trailing link" is the strut rod,
"rear toe link" is no.1 lower suspension arm
"lateral link" is no.2 lower suspension arm

Any help from someone whos fitted these?

[speedstar]

http://www.cygnusx1.net/Supra/Library/TSRM/MK3/RA/RA_056.gif

Anyone? Doesn't seem to be enough bushes in the kit

[speedstar]

Had a look at the TSRM, and loks like the end of No.2 Lower suspension arm DOESNT have a polybush. Is this correct?

[supradupra.com]

I posted this back at beginning of this thread mate, should help you out:

Just thought I'd let you know it's these sets I have just fitted in my build thread if anybody did need to see them and has not already.

Also I did a thread on poly anti roll bar bushes which are off the shelf here in the yUK which may also be of interest as, these kits do not include the anti roll bar bushes which, will inevitably be shot too.

There are no rear anti roll bar bushes for the MK3 apart from some custom jobbies sadly only made by one guy in NZ, which makes them an expensive pair of bushes with shipping etc.

Handily tho, a set of Celica off the shelf bushes can be installed with an easy mod which is also detailed in the thread.

Build Thread (http://www.forum.mkiiisupra.net/showthread.php?t=26771)

Anti roll thread (http://www.forum.mkiiisupra.net/showthread.php?t=27641)

Thought I'd mention this too as, it's not obvious & you'll think your one bush short. One of the bushes on the rear hubs is not a bush at all and is in fact a ball joint. It's item number 42210 HERE (http://www.cygnusx1.net/Supra/Library/EPC/291220/catalog.aspx?F=4804&P=1)All you need to do with this is pull back the rubber and refresh the LM grease inside.

If this ball joint is worn it can cause a "clacking" sound under braking etc.

May help a few of you anyways.

[speedstar]

Ahhhh spot on!!! Exactly what i needed!
Thanks so much!

[lovegravy]

any of these still available?

[SnakePliskin]

Would this work out cheaper than replacing all with genuine Toyota Rubbers?

[Martin P]

any of these still available?

Doub't it unless you Order Direct From George @ raptor Racing As they were got in on one shipment,

Would this work out cheaper than replacing all with genuine Toyota Rubbers?

Yes as some are not available from toyota without buying the complete arm/ assembly.

[mccaff]

Would this work out cheaper than replacing all with genuine Toyota Rubbers?

Definitely, Mr T are looking in the region of £500 just for the bushes. So the Energy Performance ones from MKIII did the job rightly.

You also have to factor in the cost of new bolts and fitting - In the end I had to replace the bolts ( they were completely seized ) - around £140-170 from MrT and then fitment (took 2 days solid labour (16hrs work).

Since the motor is lowered a good bit, camber etc all had to be set up afterwards - so in the end replacing the bushes on the motor cost nearly £1k..

BUT-- It was definately worth it - The car drives great, and you can throw it into corners etc, that you just couldn't do before.

[lovegravy]

i'll have some of these if we can get another group buy arranged...?

[SLAMbert]

Yeh same here.

[mattguttmann]

Same here

[mick3.0T]

Well then why dont one of you get hold of george@raptor racing ( he is a member on here) and sort out another group buy

[colin39]

ive pm'd george regarding prices who else is interested?

[colin39]

Email received from george today. If any one is interested please pm me. And reply to thread.
Thanks





Colin;
The pricing of the parts has not changed at all since the last group buy;
pricing is:
Front ES Kit: $59.50usd
Rear ES kit:$89.50usd
Can you give me the Postal Code to where they'd be going?* Goes without
saying but the more peeps that grab these the cheaper it ends up being for
everyone.* Is 4 the total or do you think you can get a few more other
interested?

[Martin P]

Email received from george today. If any one is interested please pm me. And reply to thread.
Thanks





Colin;
The pricing of the parts has not changed at all since the last group buy;
pricing is:
Front ES Kit: $59.50usd
Rear ES kit:$89.50usd
Can you give me the Postal Code to where they'd be going?* Goes without
saying but the more peeps that grab these the cheaper it ends up being for
everyone.* Is 4 the total or do you think you can get a few more other
interested?

PLEASE start a NEW thread If your doing a group buy With ALL the required info.
Name
location
Email
Costs including Shipping etc

Time scale for group buy

Pm me if you have any questions
Thanks
Martin P

[colin39]

sorry martin wasnt stepping outa line just gauging intereset and no one replied so it looks like a single order.
but i will know for next time

colin

[Martin P]

sorry martin wasnt stepping outa line just gauging intereset and no one replied so it looks like a single order.
but i will know for next time

colin

no mate i didn't mean to give that impression.

give them a couple of days.

[seacombe2379]

If be up for this :)

[Thetankwad]

Same here...

[mattguttmann]

And me mate

[colin39]

Ok I have been asked to start a new thread regarding this and I will do this later this evening. So please look back later and leave ya details on the new thread.

Regards

Colin

[Snowy]

PLEASE start a NEW thread If your doing a group buy With ALL the required info.
Name
location
Email
Costs including Shipping etc

Time scale for group buy

Pm me if you have any questions
Thanks
Martin P

Did this group buy go ahead only I have been thinking about this for myself...

The devil makes work for idle laptops!

[jrot]

when do you need to know by? i will know friday at the latest if i can do this or not....will i have time?